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Flax composite guitar Jul 25, 2016 18:13:58 GMT -5

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Post by RobertW on Jul 25, 2016 18:13:58 GMT -5

It's a composite guitar that looks like it's made of wood. Blackbird’s El Capitan model is actually made of something called Ekoa, a composite made of flax and industrial waste bioresin. As Wired puts it, "It’s lighter than carbon fiber and has a higher stiffness-to-weight ratio than old-growth Sitka Spruce, the preferred material for high-end soundboards."

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TonyKgull Global Moderator Posts: 6,425 Location: Ontario, Canada	Flax composite guitar Jul 25, 2016 22:50:39 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TonyKgull on Jul 25, 2016 22:50:39 GMT -5 Ok, I don't care if this guitar is the best or not; or if it's fantastically environmentally friendly. I ain't touchin' nothin' made of "industrial waste bioresin."
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Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 6:37:11 GMT -5 via mobile

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RobertW, Love them or hate them, this is the way all guitars will be in the future, generally speaking.

I think they are getting better and better, I would not have a problem owning one, if it sounded good with a good tone, was my style,looked good (and they are getting better looking) and the big one, was an affordable price.

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Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 7:08:42 GMT -5

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If i told you it was $4k would that make you invest in bioresins?

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Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 7:28:18 GMT -5

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Jul 26, 2016 6:37:11 GMT -5 Derick said:

RobertW , Love them or hate them, this is the way all guitars will be in the future, generally speaking.

I think they are getting better and better, I would not have a problem owning one, if it sounded good with a good tone, was my style,looked good (and they are getting better looking) and the big one, was an affordable price.

The article I read in "Wired" said the price of Blackbird’s El Capitan was "a little over $3,000." Nope. Out of my price range by a couple thousand dollars and more.

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Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 11:26:40 GMT -5

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RobertW, Would I pay 4k for one, No.

@sleigh, Out of my price range to.

Stud Muffin, Will far out last a wood guitar, will sound just a good in 300 years.

Same as most things, all the rich people will buy them, then they will be a big drop in price.
Maybe one, two or five years.
But this is the way guitar making will go.
When Martin, Taylor or Gibson start making them, you will not be able to buy one for years due to demand.

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Meh, by the time they stop making acoustic guitars out of wood, I'll be dead and gone. So the rich people can have the CF and the Industrial Waste Bioresin guitars so they can feel good about themselves "saving the planet."

I'll stick with wood cuz it's better, I like it, it's affordable, smells better, .......basically in every way I love wood more. Ok, ya, you have to take care of a wood guitar, can't leave it in the trunk etc., but for me, taking care of something makes me appreciate and enjoy it more.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm a tree hugger too, it's just that the trees *I* hug happen to
have been made into guitars!!

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give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
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- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 14:49:48 GMT -5

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Jul 26, 2016 13:51:16 GMT -5 TonyKgull said:

Meh, by the time they stop making acoustic guitars out of wood, I'll be dead and gone. So the rich people can have the CF and the Industrial Waste Bioresin guitars so they can feel good about themselves "saving the planet."

I'll stick with wood cuz it's better, I like it, it's affordable, smells better, .......basically in every way I love wood more. Ok, ya, you have to take care of a wood guitar, can't leave it in the trunk etc., but for me, taking care of something makes me appreciate and enjoy it more.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm a tree hugger too, it's just that the trees *I* hug happen to
have been made into guitars!!

Yes I'm a tree hugger as well.
But the times they are a changing.
A little bit of Richlite here, plastic bridge pins there, see where I'm coming from.

Faith Mercury, Parlour Guitar.
Tanglewood TW40 Sundance Historic, 12 freter. Solid Spruce top, Mahogany back and sides.
Takamine GY93E-Nat, Parlour Guitar, solid Spruce top.
Epiphone ES339, semi acoustic Electric guitar,
Fender Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck.
PRS se Custom, 24 fret, Mahogany back with Maple cap.
Tanglewood TW 45 Re Sundance Reserve, All solid wood, Cedar Top,Mahogany back and sides.

TonyKgull Global Moderator Posts: 6,425 Location: Ontario, Canada	Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 14:59:14 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TonyKgull on Jul 26, 2016 14:59:14 GMT -5 Derick, actually that reminds me. I've been meaning to go out and buy some ebony bridge pins for all my guitars if I can find some. To be fair, I haven't even looked around yet. But it's on my "to do" list.
	===================================== "Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." - Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 15:05:04 GMT -5 Stud Muffin likes this

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Jul 26, 2016 14:59:14 GMT -5 TonyKgull said:

Derick , actually that reminds me. I've been meaning to go out and buy some ebony bridge pins for all my guitars if I can find some. To be fair, I haven't even looked around yet. But it's on my "to do" list.

TonyKgull , That brand new Fender Paramount Acoustic Guitar, that I just got, has ebony bridge pins, bridge and fret board.

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Tanglewood TW40 Sundance Historic, 12 freter. Solid Spruce top, Mahogany back and sides.
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Epiphone ES339, semi acoustic Electric guitar,
Fender Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck.
PRS se Custom, 24 fret, Mahogany back with Maple cap.
Tanglewood TW 45 Re Sundance Reserve, All solid wood, Cedar Top,Mahogany back and sides.

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Flax composite guitar Jul 26, 2016 15:12:25 GMT -5 Derick likes this

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Jul 26, 2016 15:05:04 GMT -5 Derick said:

Jul 26, 2016 14:59:14 GMT -5 TonyKgull said:

Derick , actually that reminds me. I've been meaning to go out and buy some ebony bridge pins for all my guitars if I can find some. To be fair, I haven't even looked around yet. But it's on my "to do" list.

TonyKgull , That brand new Fender Paramount Acoustic Guitar, that I just got, has ebony bridge pins, bridge and fret board.

Wow, very nice. That thing really sounds like a keeper. So glad you're enjoying it!

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"Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your
souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Flax composite guitar Aug 3, 2016 18:47:38 GMT -5 TonyKgull likes this

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Post by Greg Ballantyne on Aug 3, 2016 18:47:38 GMT -5

418e has ebony pins OE.... but the $4000 flax composite guitar.....with the industrial waste bioresin....not sure the tale about lasting forever attracts me, true or not...so I think I'll pass no matter the price

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