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Crazy secret Jan 11, 2022 6:02:57 GMT -5 aristophon and Garland like this

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Post by seagullplayer on Jan 11, 2022 6:02:57 GMT -5

I got my Masterbilt out for the Holidays because it's my "beater" guitar. Kids where gonna be around, I was in and out of the winter weather. I took it to a New Years Eve Church Service and it had to stay in the car for several hours after.

But this guitar sounds so good. I have to be careful who I say this to. I'm not sure my wife would understand. But right now it is the best sounding guitar I own.

It almost pains me to say that this $240 used factory second sounds better right now than any of the other guitars in my signature. I fully expect with time and playing my Gibson is going to one day sound better, but as of today this one takes the cake.

When I found this one in the store it had dead strings and some unknown artist signature on it. If you know what to look for you can still today tell where the signature was. But just a few strums told me there was something about it. It was a real sleeper. It will never be worth money wise what it should be. It doesn't matter, I'll never sell it.

I do struggle a little about making it my beater, but I couldn't think of a better use for it. I mean it's not like I'm gonna be asked to play on the Opry and will need my best guitar for that...

A picture from New Years Eve, before I left the house.

Got a sleeper, beater hidden love you want to mention?

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Crazy secret Jan 11, 2022 7:00:59 GMT -5

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Post by TonyKgull on Jan 11, 2022 7:00:59 GMT -5

seagullplayer ,

I would have to say my folk is that for me. When I bought it, it was just cuz I got a great deal on it cuz I didn't wanna pay too much for it because it was bought to be my beater, travel, cottage, whatever guitar. The one I wasn't gonna worry about cuz it was supposed to be the one I didn't care as much about.

It too blows me away with its sound (and playability) though. I did not expect it to sound so good and sound even better over time, and I definitely did not expect to fall in love with it as much as I have.

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"Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your
souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Crazy secret Jan 11, 2022 8:31:40 GMT -5

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Post by Garland on Jan 11, 2022 8:31:40 GMT -5

seagullplayer, TonyKgull, all my guitars are subject to bein a favorite- dependin on the day

as far as a beater goes- neither Martin, for sure. As far as sound.... wow! see above statement.

I will say the gentleman, Tone Deaf Mike, at the open mic session had an Epiphone Master Built, Texan and it sounded pretty dadgum nice- I looked at the price, out of curiosity- if I was going to spend that much, I'd get a J45 Gibson- because, Gibson

making it a beater would be fool hardy, IME-

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Post by seagullplayer on Jan 11, 2022 8:51:15 GMT -5

Garland , You may know this. But Epiphone is making at least two different Texan's at the moment. The Masterbilt model that runs about $750 ish and the USA model made in the Gibson plant, it runs about $2800 ish.

They sometimes make a laminate model too that runs a couple hundred new.

As best I can tell the Masterbilt line and the "Inspired by Gibson" is the same thing, just different reference. There are more models in the IBG line.

www.epiphone.com/en-US/Guitar/EPIYNF391/Texan-USA-Collection/Antique-Natural

www.epiphone.com/en-US/Guitar/EPI2VI920/Masterbilt-Texan/Faded-Cherry

I think my Masterbilt AJ500 is more like a Texan than a J45

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Taylor 110, 2004
Martin DC-160GTE

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Post by Garland on Jan 11, 2022 15:11:36 GMT -5

seagullplayer, not sure which model he had- but, his did have built in electrics with 2 knobs on the bottom towards the rear- he said it was built on a J45 frame, whatever that means. I'll make more inquiries this weekend-
2800 is way more than I can afford- the 749 would be possible though

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Orangewood Ava w/LR Baggs Lyric
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Lag T118ASCE-BLK
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A-M-I J45 clone
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Post by Derick on Jan 11, 2022 16:48:56 GMT -5

seagullplayer,TonyKgull,Garland,

If you get a guitar disregarding the make and price, that sounds great to you hang on to it because as we all know cheap guitars can sound fine.

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blues90 Supreme Member Posts: 1,668 AKA: William Location: Hollywood ,CA Playing guitar since: A very long time .	Crazy secret Jan 11, 2022 20:38:12 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by blues90 on Jan 11, 2022 20:38:12 GMT -5 Sounds like a J160E . They had a volume and tone knob on the lower bout and a pickup at the end of the neck. It's the one the Beatles used .
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Post by Jim on Jan 12, 2022 0:19:12 GMT -5

Jan 11, 2022 6:02:57 GMT -5 seagullplayer said:

. . . Got a sleeper, beater hidden love you want to mention?

Yes seagullplayer, although I don't call it a "beater", my 1958 Goya M-26 is the "camping trip guitar".
My very first guitar was an M-26, which I always regretted selling, so when I found another a few decades ago, I snapped it up. It's value is a fraction of my Martin or Gibson, but I love it.

Here's a camping trip with my brothers from a few years ago. I took my Goya with me. This photo is in Northern Ontario a few miles west of Kapuskasing.

-1962 Martin D-21
-1950 Gibson LG1
-1958 Goya M-26
-1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung
-A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff.
-I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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Crazy secret Jan 12, 2022 5:10:22 GMT -5 Derick and Jim like this

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Post by seagullplayer on Jan 12, 2022 5:10:22 GMT -5

Jim , Your camping pictures reminded me of some pictures I had on my computer.

The computer says these are from 07. This was my old Seagull S6 that got stolen a couple years later. It was a great cedar top guitar, I still miss it.

I bought that canoe from a kid I worked with 30 years ago, he needed some fast cash. It cost me $50, I still have it today. My son uses it more than I do. We covered a lot of water with that canoe. We have camped at the same stop every year the week of Father's Day for nearly 25 years now.

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Gibson J45 Studio Walnut Burst
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ45-ME
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ500ME NS
Epiphone Hummingbird Pro
Seagull M6 Spruce
Gibson J40 (1972 era)
Yamaha 365S (1980 ish)
Taylor 110, 2004
Martin DC-160GTE

Garland The Mostest Bestest Member Posts: 4,661 AKA: Gdjjr Thistime Location: Texas! Playing guitar since: off and on since 1960, a lot more off than on	Crazy secret Jan 12, 2022 8:59:27 GMT -5 Derick likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Garland on Jan 12, 2022 8:59:27 GMT -5 Derick, that reminded me of this seagullplayer, nice truck!
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Crazy secret Jan 12, 2022 9:01:45 GMT -5

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Post by Garland on Jan 12, 2022 9:01:45 GMT -5

Jan 11, 2022 20:38:12 GMT -5 blues90 said:

Sounds like a J160E . They had a volume and tone knob on the lower bout and a pickup at the end of the neck. It's the one the Beatles used .

Could have been.... it had a nice sound whatever it was.

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SO MANY GUITARS/SONGS, SO LITTLE TIME

Guild D140 Natural
Epiphone Dove Pro (limited edition)Alpine White
Luna Artwood Vintage Distressed Folk Body
Washburn HG75SEG-0 (gave to my youngest son)
Gretsch 5420T in Aspen Green
Orangewood Ava w/LR Baggs Lyric
Martin 00015M w/LR Baggs Lyric
Lag T118ASCE-BLK
Guild D240E
A-M-I J45 clone
Squier Affinity Telecaster in White

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Crazy secret Jan 12, 2022 11:25:40 GMT -5 Derick, TonyKgull, and 1 more like this

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Post by seagullplayer on Jan 12, 2022 11:25:40 GMT -5

Derick , my uncle could pick up my old $39 Dixon and make it sounds like a county music record. I can take the most expensive guitar in the world and make it sound out of tune...

Garland , Many people (including me) don't like the look of the "barn door" controls. But I find them much easier to work with in an on stage situation. My Gibson and AJ45 are both hidden in the sound hole. They look nicer, but are not as "seat of the pants" friendly. I would suspect your dove has the hidden controls?

I think Epiphone makes/made a knock-off of the guitar blues90 , mentioned.

My Masterbilt with the "barn door" controls, built in toner is handy...

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Epiphone Masterbilt AJ45-ME
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ500ME NS
Epiphone Hummingbird Pro
Seagull M6 Spruce
Gibson J40 (1972 era)
Yamaha 365S (1980 ish)
Taylor 110, 2004
Martin DC-160GTE

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Post by blues90 on Jan 12, 2022 13:23:28 GMT -5

Yes Epiphone does make a copy of the original J160E. I don't think Gibson makes the J160E anymore , not sure , if not then his assuming it's a Gibson is fairly old. I had a J160E in the 60's. I never plugged it in yet I felt it sounded great as an acoustic.

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Crazy secret Jan 12, 2022 14:09:53 GMT -5 Derick and seagullplayer like this

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Post by TonyKgull on Jan 12, 2022 14:09:53 GMT -5

seagullplayer,` I've never understood the purist's disdain for the pre-amp controls on acoustics. (Not saying you're a purist, just that purists have real "disdain" for them). To each his own, but I actually like the look of the controls being there. And the more in-my-face and easily accessible, the better I like them. Makes the whole on-stage life a whole lot easier.

I even like how they "look." To me, it makes the guitar always look like it's ready to be piloted and flown high above the others, to be shared with the multitudes and to soar free and sing loud.

I may be in the minority, but I never want my controls hidden away. To me, it's almost like saying you're ashamed of the controls, but still desire them to be there. To me, there's just something not quite right about that.

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"Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your
souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Crazy secret Jan 12, 2022 15:20:49 GMT -5

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Post by Garland on Jan 12, 2022 15:20:49 GMT -5

seagullplayer ,TonyKgull ,Derick ,blues90 ,Jim ,

I don't mind the barn doors-

seagullplayer , yes the Dove has them in the sound hole, and it isn't that good a system IMO- it doesn't have as equalizer like the Barn Door controls, or a tuner.... although I still use a clip on. The door tuner is a tad inconvenient for me...

blues90 , I looked up the J160 this mornin.... now I don't remember what I saw

Last Edit: Jan 12, 2022 15:21:29 GMT -5 by Garland

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SO MANY GUITARS/SONGS, SO LITTLE TIME

Guild D140 Natural
Epiphone Dove Pro (limited edition)Alpine White
Luna Artwood Vintage Distressed Folk Body
Washburn HG75SEG-0 (gave to my youngest son)
Gretsch 5420T in Aspen Green
Orangewood Ava w/LR Baggs Lyric
Martin 00015M w/LR Baggs Lyric
Lag T118ASCE-BLK
Guild D240E
A-M-I J45 clone
Squier Affinity Telecaster in White

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