Clip on tuners

TonyKgull
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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 0:47:43 GMT -5

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Post by TonyKgull on Sept 8, 2018 0:47:43 GMT -5

Sept 7, 2018 16:23:04 GMT -5 RobertW said:

TonyKgull , I must warn that the subject matter of this post may be disturbing for you

Today I was slapping my Siggy a bit..(don't worry! it was consensual) and I discovered problem with the NS Micro Soundhole Tuner. I have 2 of these, one is in my Ibanez Parlor, the open headstock of which is too thick to use the NS Micro headstock tuner.

Back to the slaps:
The button battery popped out and rattled around inside guitar. After the usual acrobatics of getting things out of an acoustic body...

I then discovered a 2ed problem... the polarity of the battery slot was not indicated on the tuner! I had to go look at my other tuner in the Ibanez Parlour, to be sure I reinstalled battery correctly.

I will not be using the NS Micro Soundhole tuner in Siggy any more.. or in any slapable guitar!

I must be having a bad brain week cuz this went over my head. lol. Why would I find this disturbing?

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"Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your
souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 0:52:39 GMT -5

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Post by TonyKgull on Sept 8, 2018 0:52:39 GMT -5

Sept 7, 2018 18:14:41 GMT -5 @sleigh said:

I'm another Snark user: one black one and two red ones. They all seem to work fine. I notice however, that there's also a blue one. Maybe I need to get that to complete the set.

I have the whole set.

The black is my favorite, followed by the red, then the blue. I mean they all work great for me, never had a problem. I like the black one best. Dunno why really, but that's the one that comes on stage with me. The red is my second fav just cuz I like the sports car color of it. The blue just seems pedestrian compared to the other two.

And yes, I use them all.

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"Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your
souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 2:14:31 GMT -5

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Post by Derick on Sept 8, 2018 2:14:31 GMT -5

In this thread, I have noticed that some people do not leave there tuners in place, for not wanting to mark there guitars.
Now I am not recommending this practice but over the years, I have left my clip on tuners in place for days weeks, months and possibly years, and I may be just plain lucky, but I have never experienced any marking on the guitar from clip on tuners been left in place, the question is as anyone actually damaged there guitar from using a clip on tuner left in place for to long. 😀

Faith Mercury, Parlour Guitar.
Tanglewood TW40 Sundance Historic, 12 freter. Solid Spruce top, Mahogany back and sides.
Takamine GY93E-Nat, Parlour Guitar, solid Spruce top.
Epiphone ES339, semi acoustic Electric guitar,
Fender Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck.
PRS se Custom, 24 fret, Mahogany back with Maple cap.
Tanglewood TW 45 Re Sundance Reserve, All solid wood, Cedar Top,Mahogany back and sides.

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Post by RobertW on Sept 8, 2018 5:10:44 GMT -5

Sept 8, 2018 0:47:43 GMT -5 TonyKgull said:

Sept 7, 2018 16:23:04 GMT -5 RobertW said:

TonyKgull , I must warn that the subject matter of this post may be disturbing for you

Today I was slapping my Siggy a bit..(don't worry! it was consensual) and I discovered problem with the NS Micro Soundhole Tuner. I have 2 of these, one is in my Ibanez Parlor, the open headstock of which is too thick to use the NS Micro headstock tuner.

Back to the slaps:
The button battery popped out and rattled around inside guitar. After the usual acrobatics of getting things out of an acoustic body...

I then discovered a 2ed problem... the polarity of the battery slot was not indicated on the tuner! I had to go look at my other tuner in the Ibanez Parlour, to be sure I reinstalled battery correctly.

I will not be using the NS Micro Soundhole tuner in Siggy any more.. or in any slapable guitar!

I must be having a bad brain week cuz this went over my head. lol. Why would I find this disturbing?

you got very upset last time I mentioned guitar slapping

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Post by RobertW on Sept 8, 2018 6:07:20 GMT -5

Sept 8, 2018 2:14:31 GMT -5 Derick said:

In this thread, I have noticed that some people do not leave there tuners in place, for not wanting to mark there guitars.
Now I am not recommending this practice but over the years, I have left my clip on tuners in place for days weeks, months and possibly years, and I may be just plain lucky, but I have never experienced any marking on the guitar from clip on tuners been left in place, the question is as anyone actually damaged there guitar from using a clip on tuner left in place for to long. 😀

...probably not with any tuner made is last 10 years or so.
Derick ,
These stories of tuners and guitar stands and hangers damaging a guitar's finish are akin to urban legends. Yes, some probably happened, decades ago. But do you really think manufacturers are still using the type of foam that reacts with lacquer?

Years (decades) ago I used black foam insulation pads for light switches for those on outside walls.
I found many years later that they had turned to powder. Newly manufactured switch insulation pads are white foam now. Materials change.

My tuners are always on the instruments. Otherwise, I would be unable to find one on my desk when I needed it. Then I would have to call my cell phone from home phone so I could find IT and use PitchLab or similar...

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Martin GPCPA5K Stika Spruce/Koa HDL/Birch Stratabond/Morado Fretboard (2015)
Gretsch Mahogany Boxcar Round-Neck Resonator (2015)
Alvarez ABT60 Baritone Spruce/Mahogany (2016)
Sigma 000M-15 Mahogany, Rosewood Fretboard (2018)

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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 8:21:01 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by ancient1 on Sept 8, 2018 8:21:01 GMT -5

I have a blue one that probably came from a crackerJack box but it works great. Also have Pitch Lab as a back up.
For as long as I can remember always tuned by ear. Have no idea where it was in the tuning alphabet but it must have worked ok as others would hand me their guitars for tuning. We may have been in R or Z, who knows.

Seagulls live 40 + years....so should our guitars

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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 11:08:08 GMT -5 RobertW likes this

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Post by TonyKgull on Sept 8, 2018 11:08:08 GMT -5

Derick,RobertW, You know, I've heard the ol' "tuners will damage the headstock if left on" thing too, but one has never bothered any of my guitars. And frankly I was always of the mindset of, hey, my headstock is made from hardwood, laminate or not, what could a little clip possibly do to hurt that? (in other words, "what could possibly go wrong?" lol

)

Also, I did not know cuz it must go farther back to before I bought my first clip on tuner, that they used to use foam? That just seems weird to me. Rubber or silicon seems like the most logical choice as it's cheap, durable and long lasting. I've never seen a clip on tuner with foam padding.

RobertW, ah yes, I had forgotten about my crusade against the abuse of defenseless guitars (acoustics that is, electrics aren't defenseless! ha ha!

).

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"Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your
souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 13:13:35 GMT -5

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Post by Jim on Sept 8, 2018 13:13:35 GMT -5

Every Snark tuner comes with this advice:

SNARK advises NOT to use its tuner with
any instruments having these types of
finishes: Nitrocellulose Lacquer,
Polyurethane, French Polish, Oil Finish or
Gibson® guitars which have nitrocellulose
finishes unless you accept the risk of dents to
the headstock. We recommend using the
Snark SN-10 pedal tuner instead of the Snark
clip on tuners for these guitars and finishes.

-1962 Martin D-21
-1950 Gibson LG1
-1958 Goya M-26
-1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung
-A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff.
-I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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	-1962 Martin D-21 -1950 Gibson LG1 -1958 Goya M-26 -1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung -A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff. -I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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	-1962 Martin D-21 -1950 Gibson LG1 -1958 Goya M-26 -1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung -A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff. -I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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Post by Derick on Sept 8, 2018 13:23:33 GMT -5

Sept 8, 2018 13:13:35 GMT -5 Jim said:

Every Snark tuner comes with this advice:

SNARK advises NOT to use its tuner with
any instruments having these types of
finishes: Nitrocellulose Lacquer,
Polyurethane, French Polish, Oil Finish or
Gibson® guitars which have nitrocellulose
finishes unless you accept the risk of dents to
the headstock. We recommend using the
Snark SN-10 pedal tuner instead of the Snark
clip on tuners for these guitars and finishes.

Jim,

I think Snark are playing it a little bit safe, just in case some puts a claim in against them.
What's the point of selling a clip on tuner that you can't use on practically any guitar

Faith Mercury, Parlour Guitar.
Tanglewood TW40 Sundance Historic, 12 freter. Solid Spruce top, Mahogany back and sides.
Takamine GY93E-Nat, Parlour Guitar, solid Spruce top.
Epiphone ES339, semi acoustic Electric guitar,
Fender Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck.
PRS se Custom, 24 fret, Mahogany back with Maple cap.
Tanglewood TW 45 Re Sundance Reserve, All solid wood, Cedar Top,Mahogany back and sides.

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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 13:42:28 GMT -5 Derick likes this

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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 13:42:28 GMT -5

Yes, all the Snarks come with a warning not to leave them on the guitar for extended periods of time. But... I have to admit that I've left mine on my guitars for literally months at a time with no damage to the finish. I can't recommend doing that (and I should probably stop doing that), but so far I've had no issues with headstock marks from Snarks.

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Clip on tuners Sept 8, 2018 22:59:48 GMT -5

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Post by ladyssolo on Sept 8, 2018 22:59:48 GMT -5

I take my tuners off, mainly because I have two tuners that I move from instrument to instrument, they are one upstairs where I sit to play, and one in the living room where I sit to play. I just put it on whatever instrument I am getting ready to play, and take it off and put it back with my music stand after I am done, so it is ready to use on whatever I decide to play the next time I get to practice. So no worries about marking any instrument.

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Clip on tuners Sept 9, 2018 23:09:46 GMT -5

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Sept 8, 2018 22:59:48 GMT -5 ladyssolo said:

I take my tuners off, mainly because I have two tuners that I move from instrument to instrument, they are one upstairs where I sit to play, and one in the living room where I sit to play. I just put it on whatever instrument I am getting ready to play, and take it off and put it back with my music stand after I am done, so it is ready to use on whatever I decide to play the next time I get to practice. So no worries about marking any instrument.

I do this too ladyssolo, mainly because I don't like the looks of tuners on Guitar headstocks.

-1962 Martin D-21
-1950 Gibson LG1
-1958 Goya M-26
-1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung
-A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff.
-I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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Clip on tuners Sept 10, 2018 3:12:34 GMT -5

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Post by Derick on Sept 10, 2018 3:12:34 GMT -5

Jim,

Must admit, if I take the clip on tuners off the guitar, it's because I don't like the look of them, not because I'm bothered about them marking the headstock. 😀

Faith Mercury, Parlour Guitar.
Tanglewood TW40 Sundance Historic, 12 freter. Solid Spruce top, Mahogany back and sides.
Takamine GY93E-Nat, Parlour Guitar, solid Spruce top.
Epiphone ES339, semi acoustic Electric guitar,
Fender Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck.
PRS se Custom, 24 fret, Mahogany back with Maple cap.
Tanglewood TW 45 Re Sundance Reserve, All solid wood, Cedar Top,Mahogany back and sides.

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