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Dreadnaught upgrade Feb 28, 2018 10:33:08 GMT -5

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Post by TonyKgull on Feb 28, 2018 10:33:08 GMT -5

Flip side of the coin here, sort of.

There's nothing wrong with paying a little extra for that Martin name. I remember the Martin I had was a little more than I was wanting to spend, but the guitar was so nice I just said, "heck with it" and pulled the trigger.

The big advantage to having that guitar was it's resale value. When tough times came by and I had to sell it, I sold it for about 50 bucks less than I paid for it. So it was like having a super cheap rental for awhile. That Martin name is great for that.

It sold fast too. I don't think, out of all the guitars I've bought and sold, that any guitar sold as fast and for as much as that Martin did, including my Taylor. You gotta admit, that's a very cool thing about Martins and for me at least, is a bit of comfort that makes the higher price seem very justified.

Just because I love Alvarez and Taylor so much, doesn't mean I wouldn't buy a Martin in a heart beat if I found the right one and could afford it again.

Just my 2 cents on the other side of the coin.

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Jim
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Dreadnaught upgrade Feb 28, 2018 11:07:47 GMT -5 Stud Muffin likes this

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Post by Jim on Feb 28, 2018 11:07:47 GMT -5

Feb 28, 2018 10:33:08 GMT -5 TonyKgull said:

Flip side of the coin here, sort of.

There's nothing wrong with paying a little extra for that Martin name. I remember the Martin I had was a little more than I was wanting to spend, but the guitar was so nice I just said, "heck with it" and pulled the trigger.

The big advantage to having that guitar was it's resale value. When tough times came by and I had to sell it, I sold it for about 50 bucks less than I paid for it. So it was like having a super cheap rental for awhile. That Martin name is great for that.

It sold fast too. I don't think, out of all the guitars I've bought and sold, that any guitar sold as fast and for as much as that Martin did, including my Taylor. You gotta admit, that's a very cool thing about Martins and for me at least, is a bit of comfort that makes the higher price seem very justified.

Just because I love Alvarez and Taylor so much, doesn't mean I wouldn't buy a Martin in a heart beat if I found the right one and could afford it again.

Just my 2 cents on the other side of the coin.

Many Martins increase in value over time. I was asked by my insurance company to have my instruments appraised and was surprised to find that according to the Twelfth Fret music store in Toronto, my guitar is worth over five times what I paid for it and 18 times what the original purchaser would have paid in 1962.

-1962 Martin D-21
-1950 Gibson LG1
-1958 Goya M-26
-1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung
-A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff.
-I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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Dreadnaught upgrade Mar 1, 2018 1:35:57 GMT -5 CTGull, Derick, and 2 more like this

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Post by Jim on Mar 1, 2018 1:35:57 GMT -5

Stud Muffin , I once owned a Blueridge BR-140. I will agree that it is a great guitar. My brother bought it from me and plays it as much as his '58 J-50. Here's Bob with his daughter, Steph playing his Blueridge. Steph dropped into my house a few years back one weekend and tried out one of my old banjos. She wasmaking great progress after just one weekend so I let her borrow the banjo. By the next time I heard her she was so good that I told her to keep it. I was proud to watch her play it at the Guelph Hillside Folk Festival. She is also a great singer songwriter and guitarist.

Just found this video and thought I'd share it. Steph's banjo was my first banjo. It went through several incarnations. The pot is almost all new, The fretboard is also new. It was a fretless for a couple of years, but I decided to put frets back on it. The headstock was shaped sort of like a Gibson guitar headstock, but I changed it to a fiddle headstock and did my first attempt at pearl inlay on it.

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-1962 Martin D-21
-1950 Gibson LG1
-1958 Goya M-26
-1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung
-A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff.
-I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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Dreadnaught upgrade Mar 10, 2018 17:37:15 GMT -5 Derick, Stud Muffin, and 2 more like this

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Post by El Gull on Mar 10, 2018 17:37:15 GMT -5

Feb 26, 2018 8:10:30 GMT -5 @sleigh said:

Feb 25, 2018 14:21:06 GMT -5 ladyssolo said:

Ideally, someone could do blind testing as it's done with wines, cheese, coffee, and liquors. You could take a friend with you to the music store, blindfold yourself, and have your friend grab random guitars from the wall and hand them to you. That way, you could only judge the guitar by its sound and the way it felt in your hands. When you've found the one that seems best for you, voila!, off comes the blindfold and you have your next guitar -- without any bias regarding brand name, price, or bling.

Actually seems like an intriguing way to choose a guitar...

I can totally relate to this. I have done this a few times. And you will be amazed at what will happen. I had one night where I played as many as 16 different high end guitars.

I did a blindfold test with a few of them, sitting in front of the player. Amazingly, I chose an Adi spruce/Brazilian Rosewood OM (I think it was a Martin) over everything else. It was one of the most expensive guitars in the room, and I started to sweat it! I couldnt understand it. I'm generally not a Rosewood fan, or a Martin fan, or a fan of emptying my wallet. Started to think my ears were getting expensive.

Fortunately, when I did the playing blind-folded and played in my own style, things started getting less weird. I chose a Sitka Spruce / Quilted Mahogany Webber dreadnought, with a slothead. Still one of the best guitars I have ever played, and it just sounded great! It felt like it wanted to be climbed into, and really played easy. It was like my hands naturally fitted to the fretboard. The best word I can use to describe this instrument is "expressive". It was like a car that YOU drive, rather than a car that drives you. All of a sudden, the SOUND started to come out of this thing, becasue the sound was connected to the FEEL.

So the point is that its not all about woods, bracing and construction techniques. That certainly forms a part, but it also depends on if you are playing or listening, and who is playing. I think playing style and the kind of song, chords or notes you are hearing, as well as the general "feel" of the guitar in your hands can make a huge differecne in what "sound" you go for. "Sound" and "feel" is, for me, one fuzzy concept, that stirs the emotion, and sometimes empties the bank balance.

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Dreadnaught upgrade Mar 12, 2018 5:10:38 GMT -5

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Post by seagullplayer on Mar 12, 2018 5:10:38 GMT -5

My Seagull M6 is a great guitar, it can really fill a room.
I find that it can really take the hard strumming I tend use.

It has more lower end than any of my three S6's had.
I might one day give it to a grandchild, but I will never sell it.

The S6 is a really great guitar itself.

There is a thread on my Epiphone Masterbild AJ45Me that you might read.
I find it a really nice all solid wood guitar for less than $600.
I'll admit we are still in the "honeymoon" period, so you might want to take what I say with a grain of salt. As I am still "love struck" with it.

But I have had the Seagull M6 for more than a decade, you can take those views to the bank.

www.epiphone.com/Products/Acoustic/Electric/Masterbilt-2015-AJ-45ME.aspx

Gibson J45 Studio Walnut Burst
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ45-ME
Epiphone Masterbilt AJ500ME NS
Epiphone Hummingbird Pro
Seagull M6 Spruce
Gibson J40 (1972 era)
Yamaha 365S (1980 ish)
Taylor 110, 2004
Martin DC-160GTE

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