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8ntractor
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TUNERS Sept 2, 2020 12:20:02 GMT -5 ancient1 and aristophon like this

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Post by 8ntractor on Sept 2, 2020 12:20:02 GMT -5

I was wondering if anyone has used a unik usb mic and a tuning computer program for tuning their guitar? This is a popular mic for measuring and testing loudspeakers. The mic comes with a calibration file. With the calibration file it is quite accurate and flat. Without the calibration file it may be up to 1 hz off.

Does anyone know of a program that will accept a calibration file?

I have to think that a 100.00 microphone would be as accurate than a 30.00 tuner

I already own the mic and I don't want to spend the 30.00 if I do not have to.

Last time I played guitar we used a little plastic whistle for tuning so I am probably over thinking this.

I have to say I am really enjoying this guitar. This Guitar is a joy to play.

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Post by aristophon on Sept 2, 2020 12:33:46 GMT -5

8ntractor,

Your question is above my skill level, but would certainly be a question needing attention if producing high quality commercial recordings.

My brain is still hurting from researching various historical and current orchestral tunings.

Imma staying far away from anything dealing with sound engineer level questions.

I do believe you'll get a good response from the really knowledgeable members who post here.

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ancient1 Elite Member Posts: 815 Playing guitar since: late 50's....always a beginner	TUNERS Sept 2, 2020 14:06:03 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ancient1 on Sept 2, 2020 14:06:03 GMT -5 A little short on knowledge but my little snark tuner was like 10 bucks on sale and works good. A friend uses one on his phone, freebie,and it doesn't correlate with the snark..one of them is off
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TUNERS Sept 2, 2020 14:32:05 GMT -5 Derick and Garland like this

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Post by 8ntractor on Sept 2, 2020 14:32:05 GMT -5

Thank you I am sure it is good enough. I am trying to learn more about music and about sound so I really would like to learn what an A E or B actually sounds like. Hence the question. I really liked playing with Dericks recommendation of a 1/2 step down but as I thought about it I want to train my ears as well as my fingers. I would like to be able to tell if a guitar is tuned to E or to D# Thank you for all the answers.

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8ntractor New Member Posts: 49	TUNERS Sept 2, 2020 16:20:52 GMT -5 TonyKgull and Garland like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by 8ntractor on Sept 2, 2020 16:20:52 GMT -5 Judson that could be taken a couple of ways. I don't know if I should buy a Snarky or stop asking about tuners.

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TUNERS Sept 2, 2020 18:52:41 GMT -5

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Post by TonyKgull on Sept 2, 2020 18:52:41 GMT -5

8ntractor, I'll second the thumbs-up for a Snark. They don't use mics to tune, so the mic is not an issue. They do have the option to use a built-in mic that some Snarks come with (I believe it's still the "red" ones), but Snarks work via vibration first and foremost. I find them very accurate. Tested mine against a freshly professionally tuned piano and they're dead on.

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TUNERS Sept 2, 2020 21:00:51 GMT -5

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Post by blues90 on Sept 2, 2020 21:00:51 GMT -5

I have a tuning fork guitar low A and a Boss tuner with a mic of plug in. The Boss is from the mid 90's. It has alt tuning plus a setting for standard and one step flat and 2 steps flat. I slowly get the strings close when I have them all off to fit a saddle of clean the board. When I have nothing to adjust or replace I do one string at a time. With them all off I start with the two center strings then work out so as not to shift the neck or place undue stress on it.

Nothing high tech here.

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Post by Jim on Sept 2, 2020 23:01:21 GMT -5

I have a few of the red Snarks and have been quite happy with them, but since we've had to move our weekly sessions outdoors, I realise that they are hard to read in bright sunlight. Our local music store was selling a smaller blue rectangular Snark with no mic options and no calibration options, just an on/off switch, but they're easy to read, even in bright sunlight, and they're cheap -about ten bucks.
Here's the Snark and another tuner that says "AT4" on the front. You can see that they seem to agree that my low E is in tune.

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TUNERS Sept 3, 2020 11:08:34 GMT -5

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Post by seagullplayer on Sept 3, 2020 11:08:34 GMT -5

If I wanted to train my ears, I probably should, I would find a source for an E tone and learn to tune by ear.

If you have a smart phone there are plenty of free Apps that will allow you to do that very thing.

BTW: I have a handful of Snarks...

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TUNERS Sept 3, 2020 14:16:30 GMT -5

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Post by 8ntractor on Sept 3, 2020 14:16:30 GMT -5

Thank you all I do not have a smart phone I will look again the snark tuners as long as it is using vibration instead of a mic it makes sense I assumed they were using some very cheap microphone. Thank you for the information. Blues90 are you saying to change the middle strings first and work your way out to not stress the neck? I am getting strings tomorrow and I have the fear of the epoxied neck and the used guitar no warranty so anything to preserve the neck on that guitar. It has been a week today callus already formed. yea thank you all again

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TUNERS Sept 3, 2020 14:25:32 GMT -5

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Post by Cardinal2B on Sept 3, 2020 14:25:32 GMT -5

I have an assortment of tuners from a 12H Boss oldie, to the Korg ones that are about the size of a deck of cards, and some Snarks, too. I use the Snarks the most. However, the one in the Guitar Toolkit App (for iPhone or iPad) is very good, battery expenses are much less over time, and its as accurate as a Snark. Also does about 60 alternate guitar tunings, plus chords, and much more.

NOTE - i you have two tuners that do not correlate it is likely one of two things.
1. They almost all can be adjusted from a=440 up and down about 10 cents. So likely one or both are off standard 440.
2. One or both batteries are dying

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TUNERS Sept 3, 2020 15:31:49 GMT -5 aristophon likes this

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Post by RobertW on Sept 3, 2020 15:31:49 GMT -5

I have a whole bunch of D'Addario NS MINI headstock tuners and 2 NS Mini soundhole tuners
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TUNERS Sept 3, 2020 16:27:45 GMT -5 ancient1 likes this

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Post by TonyKgull on Sept 3, 2020 16:27:45 GMT -5

Sept 3, 2020 14:16:30 GMT -5 8ntractor said:

....Blues90 are you saying to change the middle strings first and work your way out to not stress the neck? I am getting strings tomorrow and I have the fear of the epoxied neck and the used guitar no warranty so anything to preserve the neck on that guitar. It has been a week today callus already formed. yea thank you all again

Acoustic guitars have a truss rod in the neck to stabilize it. As long as you do your string change in one shot, (meaning take strings off, clean guitar, put new strings on), and don't leave it without strings on it for several hours or days even, you'll be fine.

I've always taken all my strings off, carefully, loosening each one a little bit at a time so everything gets "undone" evenly. Then, in no hurry, taking my time, I clean the guitar (neck specifically, but everything else too if they need it). Then I put the new strings on, again, evenly.

Takes me about, oh, I dunno, roughly 20 minutes to half an hour. I don't rush it.

Been doing that for over 30 years on cheap and expensive guitars alike and I've never had a problem.

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