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Our Limits Sept 5, 2020 16:37:11 GMT -5

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Post by RobertW on Sept 5, 2020 16:37:11 GMT -5

as we get older our vocal range dimishes and we have to drop keys on tunes we used to sing in a higher key
yeah I know this but I never sang Bell Bottom Blues
I found most tab are in C. OK I can sing this... and it sounds great on resonator.

That is until I hit that ONE C# NOTE in the second I dont want to fade AWAY...
well I--- didn't hit it.
Tried it in G, vocals no work at all, started capoing... worse.
I knew what I needed, one silly semitone.
Grabbed Amber (always tuned 1/2 step down), tried and yup now I can hit it.

SO I went back to resonator and tuned IT a 1/2 step down. OK now I can hit note but the resonator is not resonating as nicely. Not enjoy the sound as much. What to do?

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Our Limits Sept 5, 2020 18:20:13 GMT -5 ancient1 likes this

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Post by TonyKgull on Sept 5, 2020 18:20:13 GMT -5

Just an idea.

If you don't want to tune your resonator down a half step:

You'd need a capo for this. Don't know if you can use a capo on your resonator.

Anyways, if the song is in C, then transpose the chords to the key of G. Put the Capo on the 4th fret. Using the key of G chord shapes this will get you actually playing in the key of B which is the one semi-tone down for that slight drop you want for your vocals.

At least, I think that's how that works. lol.

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TonyKgull Global Moderator Posts: 6,425 Location: Ontario, Canada	Our Limits Sept 5, 2020 18:21:26 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TonyKgull on Sept 5, 2020 18:21:26 GMT -5 Oh I forgot to ask, but, ....I do hope you have a capo lying around somewhere with which to try this.
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Our Limits Sept 5, 2020 19:13:03 GMT -5

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Post by RobertW on Sept 5, 2020 19:13:03 GMT -5

I already mentioned I tried capoing. Capos do not work well with resonator. I mean capos work, but the shorter strings seem to detract from the tone, the resonance and the reverberation. It Get PLunky, mon.
I've really grown fond of the band-pass filter sound( or is it notch? damn I'm old)
Does not resonate as well when I had it tuned in c-standard with the nickle bronze strings, it was the best it has ever been.

Well I'll give it a few days. Maybe my ear will take to it. I can also try loosening cone pressure.

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Our Limits Sept 6, 2020 9:23:20 GMT -5

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Post by Garland on Sept 6, 2020 9:23:20 GMT -5

I have good voice range always have had it. But, there are times (late in the evenings usually) that I just can't hit that high note- so, I just don't- I do it where I'm comfortable and change the chord to suit it- for instance; Go Rest High on That Mountain, Vince Gills voice is just naturally high an he hits some notes I only fondly remember being able to do. So, I just don't. I do them in an octave I'm comfortable with. It seems to me, that actually helps me on my journey to "make it mine" - my interpretation if you will.
There are some songs in C that I've found are easier to do in G and I actually like them better too.
Sometimes I capo just for the hell of it whether I need to or not and have found I like that effect as well.
As I said in a different thread; my voice does gymnastics. That's a good thang for an incompetent player.

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Our Limits Sept 6, 2020 12:46:52 GMT -5 RobertW, aristophon, and 1 more like this

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Post by Derick on Sept 6, 2020 12:46:52 GMT -5

I'm one of those lucky people with regards to my singing voice, when I was younger I had a terrible singing voice, couldn't sing in tune, sounded very bad, the good news is since I've got older my singing voice as remained the same.

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Our Limits Sept 6, 2020 22:37:26 GMT -5 Garland likes this

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Post by TonyKgull on Sept 6, 2020 22:37:26 GMT -5

Garland , said, "...there are times (late in the evenings usually) that I just can't hit that high note- so, I just don't- I do it where I'm comfortable and change the chord to suit it..."

That's actually a brilliant idea. I've never tried that, but I may just do that the next time I run into this problem, or even come close to it. It hasn't really happened to me yet, but I can feel that my age is effecting my singing slightly and that happening could be right around the corner.

To be fair, there are many of my more challenging songs that I haven't played in awhile. So, it could be possible that this is already a problem to use this solution with; I just have to have the time to try enough songs to find one.

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"Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will
give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I
am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your
souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
- Jesus, from Matthew 11:28-30

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