I wouldn't say no to any of then. But if you are more of a fingerpicker the 1 3/4" nut may be of interest to you.
But you can't really tell your preference untill you have played them all, so many things to look for and try, looks,sound/tone, how comfortable it feels to you, ease of play, you may even have a preference for the wood type. Enjoy your shopping trip pity I can't come with you.
There are a couple of other factors involved than just nut width if we are talking about fingerpicking:
1. The actual string spacing at the nut. Different builders space the strings differently even with a 1 3/4" nut width. 2. String spacing at the saddle. It seems as if 2 3/16" string spacing at the saddle has become the norm, but for fingerpickers a bit wider is better, such as 2 1/4" or 2 5/16". 3. Back to the neck fretboard radius and neck shape are important to the overall feel of the guitar. 4. Scale length. For longer reaches, a short scale may be desirable, though a longer scale is better if you are tuning down to alternate tunings.
All of the above are individual pieces of the puzzle and for each of us the combinations may be different. However, consider these when you are trying different guitars and try to determine which of these factors comes into play on those guitars that feel right to you and which don't. From the experience of playing many guitars, you can hone in on what works for you.
Since so many guitars these days have a 1 3/4" nut width and a 2 3/16" saddle string spacing, I have learned to adjust to these and now feel comfortable with the string spacing that Taylor and McPherson use on their 1 3/4" nut, and the 2 3/16" saddle spacing has become comfortable to me. Being able to adjust gives me a much wider range of guitars that will work for me.
Prior to learning to adjust, I "needed" a 1 7/8" nut with a string spacing that took most advantage of it, and a 2 5/16" saddle string spacing. Finding something like that in steel string guitars puts you in a very small market area that smells of money and certainly eliminates carbon fiber instruments because these are built pretty much to what the general market demands.
Well- I did have a good time shopping- sadly they didn't have the Luna I was interested in and it was (for them) six week back order item! I spent 1 1/2 hours playing several different (including those on my list)and, wonder of wonders, I settled on a Mitchell- it's a Guitar Center acoustic/electric, EL CHEAPO- he let me have it for 149 bucks! I brought it home and put a set of D'addario 11-52's on it and was disappointed- it sounded better (the one on display) with the strings it had on it- too much wood tonality with the new strings- I'm taking it back today to see what we can agree to-
Maybe y'all can help me since I'm still not done- the best way to describe what I'm looking for is *string purity* and not wood tonality- in my head I hear (and picture) the *old* blues (front porch, if you will), players, who for all intents and purposes had a cigar box with strings.
Last Edit: Sept 9, 2020 9:13:34 GMT -5 by thisoldman
Sorry you got a lemon, it happens to most of us at sometime or other, so on to the next.
Yes the Alvarez Delta could be a good choice.
Now that PRS Parlour guitar, thats my type of guitar, it's one of my favourite sizes of guitar and PRS is an excellent make, but I do play mostly fingerstyle and for my own amusement. You would have to try it to see if that is the sound you are looking for. If it was my guitar I would also tune it down half a step, thats the sound I like. I have the Art and Lutherie Parlour guitar that is very simular I play that guitar a lot.
thisoldman, if possible, A/B (side by side comparison) some Alvarez guitars of the size you're looking for with others. I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but I think you'll be blown away. But, even if not, I'd love to hear what you think of them.
They are amazing bang-for-the-buck. On par price-wise with Seagull, Takamine, Yamaha, etc. So, even on the used market, should be the same, maybe even better as Alvarez is not as well known as the ones I just mentioned, so there's a chance you could find some even cheaper.
The way they do their necks alone is worth a try. The only guitars I've found with necks like Alvarez are from Cole Clark, and only on the higher end stuff with Taylor and Martin. I "think" Eastman does Taylor like necks as well, but not sure on that one as there's no Eastmans in my neck of the woods to try.
Good luck at the guitar store and with your search!
===================================== One Alvarez in the hand is worth two Taylors and a Martin in the guitar store!
Post by thisoldman on Sept 9, 2020 16:34:33 GMT -5
Well- thanks for the tips guys. They did have the Alvaez but I purposely stayed away from it because I have an Alvarez AD60 that has great/beautiful "wood" tonality. I'll give it a closer look next time I'm in.
The PRS was on their site for (IMS) 499 bucks.
The guitar tech did a set up on it and it sounds good- but, it sounds like a dreadnaught- they told me I have 45 days to change my mind with no harm, no foul- I asked about the PRS and yes they can get it but didn't have one there- I'm on the "must call" list for the Luna- I also started considering the Gretsch Rancher Penguin Parlor Body again since it seems that may be the best shot at what I'm looking for- and, it is a beautiful to look at guitar.
I had a "duh" moment while there while talking to the tech about the sound I'm looking for. My idea was to put some kind of sound dampener inside the body. He suggested using velcro because I was too dumb to, to hold it in place - but, my "duh" moment was a sound hole plug I got one. Didn't help the ones we tried it on in the store (just 2) and it did nothing for the Mitchell, except make it not as loud. I brought it home and put it in my Fender Parlor body and VOILA! I've not tried it on the others yet, but, for less than 10 bucks it made the Parlor body way closer to what I'm after!