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Jim Supreme Member Posts: 1,939 Location: Port Hope, Ontario, Canada Playing guitar since: circa 1960	This surprised me. Oct 3, 2021 22:30:42 GMT -5 Derick and RobertW like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2021 22:30:42 GMT -5 I traded a Gretsch guitar to a buddy for a Joe Zier tenor ukulele. The uke has a side port and I like the sound a lot. It also has linear rather than re-entrant tuning.
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Post by RobertW on Oct 4, 2021 7:41:07 GMT -5

Derick ,One thing to keep in mind, this mod is for YOU, not the audience. You don't have to answer criticisms like "hey I don't hear any diff" from the peanut gallery... If they wanna hear a diff they will have to play it themselves or sit on your lap

I tried to make a plug for the port but could not get a good fit. But I can FEEL the difference when strumming. My chest gets the vibes.

Another advantage is you now have a new way to pick up guitar

I find myself always taking it down by the porthole. I expect to see finger marks on the inside of the back from my hand.

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Post by seagullplayer on Oct 4, 2021 8:38:49 GMT -5

The biggest advantage I see to the extra "sound port" is getting the toys and coins out after one of my grand kids get a hold of it.

I'm sure there are a lot of guitars out there with dead pick-ups that could benefit from such a mod. Might even make them easier to sell. Who wants to buy a used guitar with a dead obsolete pick-up when they can get one with a nifty sound port option.

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Oct 4, 2021 8:38:49 GMT -5 seagullplayer said:

The biggest advantage I see to the extra "sound port" is getting the toys and coins out after one of my grand kids get a hold of it.

I'm sure there are a lot of guitars out there with dead pick-ups that could benefit from such a mod. Might even make them easier to sell. Who wants to buy a used guitar with a dead obsolete pick-up when they can get one with a nifty sound port option.

seagullplayer,

Yes it's surprising what you can find inside your guitar when you fit a new side sound port, I found two pairs of Nickers a bra, a half bottle of Jack Daniels, no wonder it sounds better, strange didn't find any picks.
Agree a side sound port is far better than a dead electronic thing, plus it makes the guitar lighter and the sound chamber bigger,

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Oct 4, 2021 7:41:07 GMT -5 RobertW said:

Derick ,One thing to keep in mind, this mod is for YOU, not the audience. You don't have to answer criticisms like "hey I don't hear any diff" from the peanut gallery... If they wanna hear a diff they will have to play it themselves or sit on your lap

I tried to make a plug for the port but could not get a good fit. But I can FEEL the difference when strumming. My chest gets the vibes.

Another advantage is you now have a new way to pick up guitar

I find myself always taking it down by the porthole. I expect to see finger marks on the inside of the back from my hand.

RobertW,

One big selfish advantage of the side sound port is, I was getting a little bored with this guitar, but the mod has given me an interest in this guitar again.

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This surprised me. Oct 4, 2021 11:17:59 GMT -5

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Post by TonyKgull on Oct 4, 2021 11:17:59 GMT -5

Derick , When looking at the guitar as it sits on a guitar stand, you even put the port hole on the "port" side of the guitar!

Ya......I notice silly things.

Ok, technically speaking, it was already there. I like to ramble...........
carry on......nothing to see here.

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Oct 4, 2021 10:18:44 GMT -5 Derick said:

One big selfish advantage of the side sound port is, I was getting a little bored with this guitar, but the mod has given me an interest in this guitar again.

That alone makes the mod well worthwhile.

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-I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.

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Post by Derick on Oct 8, 2021 14:20:58 GMT -5

TonyKgull,Jim,RobertW,Derick,Garland,

Just a quick update.
Still got the 10s gauge strings on, they have had many hours of play time now, they are still going strong, I tuned them down a half step and like them even better now.

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This surprised me. Oct 8, 2021 17:06:40 GMT -5

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Post by Garland on Oct 8, 2021 17:06:40 GMT -5

Derick , I was thinkin about this topic earlier today- I even ordered a couple sets of 10-47 Martin Monels this past Sunday- while thinking today, I recalled a, if not the. reason I moved up to 11-52's in the Monel- in standard tuning the high E sounded tinny and at the time I wasn't doing the 1/2 or full step down tuning- I liked the ease of playing the 10-47's but- the tinny sound was worse on the PB wound strings- not sure when I'll change to the 10-47's I have now- but, I will and make at least a mental note of the difference in sound- evenin before last I played the 00015M all evenin and it has the 11-52 Monels tuned down a whole step and I really like the way it sounds- as well as both Lags with the 11-52 Monels

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Post by Derick on Oct 8, 2021 17:34:27 GMT -5

Garland,

Strange, when I first changed to the 10s gauge, I liked the feel of the strings and liked the tone, was tuned to standard pitch, then after a few days play thought they sounded a bit tinny, so tuned then down a half step and was surprised by how much I liked the tone and the playability.
So will keep the 10s on till I've worn them out, not sure what I'll do then, as I do like them but have quite a few packs of 11s gauge strings.
The other thing is I do play my electric guitars quite often and they have 10s gauge strings on, so with having the same gauge strings on both the acoustic and electric keeps it nice when changing from one to the other.

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Post by Garland on Oct 23, 2021 9:43:13 GMT -5

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On the 13th of this month I put a set of 10-47 Monels on my Lag T70A- last night I played it and didn't like what I heard. The Low E sounded weird and didn't have near enough bass sound-

I have a set of 11-50 GHS cryogenic PB I'm about to put on it-

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Oct 23, 2021 9:43:13 GMT -5 Garland said:

Jim ,RobertW ,seagullplayer ,Derick ,TonyKgull ,

On the 13th of this month I put a set of 10-47 Monels on my Lag T70A- last night I played it and didn't like what I heard. The Low E sounded weird and didn't have near enough bass sound-

I have a set of 11-50 GHS cryogenic PB I'm about to put on it-

Garland,

On the 26 Sept, I fitted a set of Martin Authentic Phosphor Bronze 10s gauge to my Sigma 000M-1, have played the guitar every day since, and the strings sound beautiful.
Must admit not to keen on sound when tuned to standard pitch, but tuned half a step down beautiful, but to be fair that's the tuning I'm used to.
These strings have lasted me longer than most other make and gauge strings and I've tried a lot.

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Fender Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck.
PRS se Custom, 24 fret, Mahogany back with Maple cap.
Tanglewood TW 45 Re Sundance Reserve, All solid wood, Cedar Top,Mahogany back and sides.

Garland The Mostest Bestest Member Posts: 4,661 AKA: Gdjjr Thistime Location: Texas! Playing guitar since: off and on since 1960, a lot more off than on	This surprised me. Oct 23, 2021 13:24:39 GMT -5 Derick likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Garland on Oct 23, 2021 13:24:39 GMT -5 Derick, I used Martin Monels- previously and liked them in 11-52's- the 10-47's just ain't cutting it and I have the GHS on hand.
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Post by Derick on Oct 23, 2021 13:48:31 GMT -5

Garland,

I've used the Martin Monel's 11s gauge, I thought they were OK, they seem to last a long while, but traded the guitar in with the Monel's on way before the strings were worn out.
I like the GHS Phosphor Bronze 11s gauge, just wish they lasted a little longer, but in all fairness I've got what's known as acid fingers, so 80/20 Brass and Phosphor Bronze strings soon discolour, usually a couple of days.

Faith Mercury, Parlour Guitar.
Tanglewood TW40 Sundance Historic, 12 freter. Solid Spruce top, Mahogany back and sides.
Takamine GY93E-Nat, Parlour Guitar, solid Spruce top.
Epiphone ES339, semi acoustic Electric guitar,
Fender Mex Stratocaster, White with Maple neck.
PRS se Custom, 24 fret, Mahogany back with Maple cap.
Tanglewood TW 45 Re Sundance Reserve, All solid wood, Cedar Top,Mahogany back and sides.

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This surprised me. Oct 24, 2021 5:38:46 GMT -5

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Post by TonyKgull on Oct 24, 2021 5:38:46 GMT -5

Derick , I'm actually quite amazed you can even play finger-style with 10s.

The lightest I've tried on an acoustic is Custom Lights (11's) and I found them way too bendy when trying to finger pick, in other words, not enough resistance when I plucked them. I found the volume and tone wanting as well cuz there just wasn't enough string and tension to pull all, or the full sound and tone out of the sound board. The lighter the string, the less they excite the sound board.

Strumming was ok, the bendiness didn't seem to matter much there except when flat picking. When doing that the same problem would occur for me, not enough tension or resistance to my plucking.

Found all that a wee bit frustrating. Now...., keep in mind, that's with 11s under standard tuning and tension. You're playing 10's tuned a step down! Man. I just can't imagine. That would be a hot, super bendy, lack of tension and tone mess for me. lol.

But, I've never heard you play so that's also why I can't imagine. I'm guessing you have a very feather soft style of finger picking to be comfortable with 10s a step down. Not saying what you do is bad or wrong. I just find it interesting all the different things we do with guitars.

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