Seagull Scale Length Change

CTGull Global Moderator MOD/ADMIN Posts: 4,634 Location: Connecticut Playing guitar since: Early 80's & 2011	Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 8, 2017 8:56:58 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by CTGull on Apr 8, 2017 8:56:58 GMT -5 ALL 7 of my Seagulls are short scale. The newest is 2010. Not sure where my pinky anchors.
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Greg Ballantyne Supreme Member Posts: 1,139 Location: Maryland, USA Playing guitar since: 1974	Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 8, 2017 9:06:54 GMT -5 CTGull likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Greg Ballantyne on Apr 8, 2017 9:06:54 GMT -5 CTGull , I bought my Maritime in 2010. The NE was in 2013, I guess after the scale length change.
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Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 8, 2017 11:39:20 GMT -5

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Apr 8, 2017 8:45:35 GMT -5 Greg Ballantyne said:

RobertW , my anchor finger drifts toward the bridge, and is stopped by it. I'm picking the strings just off the bridge side of the sound hole. You are apparently picking the strings over the sound hole, tending toward the fretboard.
I don't believe I've seen a pickguard cover that spot...... but your guitar has character. I like guitars with character, but seem to take steps to prevent it in my own......

zoom in on my pic, the area between bridge and pickguard...

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Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 8, 2017 11:40:19 GMT -5

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Apr 8, 2017 8:56:58 GMT -5 CTGull said:

ALL 7 of my Seagulls are short scale. The newest is 2010.

Not sure where my pinky anchors.

nose?

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Martin GPCPA5K Stika Spruce/Koa HDL/Birch Stratabond/Morado Fretboard (2015)
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Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 8, 2017 11:42:24 GMT -5

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my 2015 Coastline 12 seems to be 24.5"
measured 12 1/4 from nut to 12th

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Ibanez Artwood Parlour 2 AVN3-NT Spruce/Mahogany (2015)
Martin GPCPA5K Stika Spruce/Koa HDL/Birch Stratabond/Morado Fretboard (2015)
Gretsch Mahogany Boxcar Round-Neck Resonator (2015)
Alvarez ABT60 Baritone Spruce/Mahogany (2016)
Sigma 000M-15 Mahogany, Rosewood Fretboard (2018)

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Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 8, 2017 14:14:01 GMT -5

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Apr 8, 2017 11:40:19 GMT -5 RobertW said:

Apr 8, 2017 8:56:58 GMT -5 CTGull said:

ALL 7 of my Seagulls are short scale. The newest is 2010.

Not sure where my pinky anchors.

nose?

As George Carlin once siad: you can pick your friends or you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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Apr 8, 2017 14:14:01 GMT -5 @sleigh said:

Apr 8, 2017 11:40:19 GMT -5 RobertW said:

nose?

As George Carlin once siad: you can pick your friends or you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

And as my friend Bob George once said, "You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends on the couch."

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Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 9, 2017 11:59:45 GMT -5

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Apr 8, 2017 11:39:20 GMT -5 RobertW said:

Apr 8, 2017 8:45:35 GMT -5 Greg Ballantyne said:

RobertW , my anchor finger drifts toward the bridge, and is stopped by it. I'm picking the strings just off the bridge side of the sound hole. You are apparently picking the strings over the sound hole, tending toward the fretboard.
I don't believe I've seen a pickguard cover that spot...... but your guitar has character. I like guitars with character, but seem to take steps to prevent it in my own......

zoom in on my pic, the area between bridge and pickguard...

Zooming in reveals even more character. That is a guitar that looks like it could tell a story or four.

In order of appearance:
Aria LW-20
Seagull Maritime HG Dread
Seagull Natural Elements Cedar/Cherry Dread
Taylor 418e
Taylor 514ce LTD
Trinity College TM-375 Irish Bouzouki

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Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 9, 2017 15:38:46 GMT -5

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as a matter of fact, it did

The Lay of the Silkie Wife

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Seagull S6 Cedar/Cherry (1998)
Seagull Amber Trail CW Mini-Jumbo Spruce/Maple Long scale (2012)
Seagull Coastline Cedar 12 Cedar/Cherry (2015)
Ibanez Artwood Parlour 2 AVN3-NT Spruce/Mahogany (2015)
Martin GPCPA5K Stika Spruce/Koa HDL/Birch Stratabond/Morado Fretboard (2015)
Gretsch Mahogany Boxcar Round-Neck Resonator (2015)
Alvarez ABT60 Baritone Spruce/Mahogany (2016)
Sigma 000M-15 Mahogany, Rosewood Fretboard (2018)

TonyKgull Global Moderator Posts: 6,425 Location: Ontario, Canada	Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 9, 2017 21:14:24 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TonyKgull on Apr 9, 2017 21:14:24 GMT -5 Apr 9, 2017 15:38:46 GMT -5 RobertW said: as a matter of fact, it did The Lay of the Silkie Wife Is that an intro to something? I like it.
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Apr 9, 2017 21:14:24 GMT -5 TonyKgull said:

Apr 9, 2017 15:38:46 GMT -5 RobertW said:

as a matter of fact, it did

The Lay of the Silkie Wife

Is that an intro to something? I like it.

'it' is an album. If you only see player, the next & previous gadgets at edge of window...

I hate that about google drive; different people see different things with a link.

For me the link shows the contents of the directory, 8 tracks, cover art as well as the script/lyrics in jpg and text

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Martin GPCPA5K Stika Spruce/Koa HDL/Birch Stratabond/Morado Fretboard (2015)
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Apr 7, 2017 22:37:31 GMT -5 TonyKgull said:

Apr 7, 2017 22:30:42 GMT -5 CaliGull said:

I don't think individual sales people had any idea about particular brand specs or changes or whatever. I often find that I know more about guitar details than the average sales guy. Sad as it is.

You are totally right on that one. You'd think anyone who is supposed to be "thee salesperson" for a particular line of products would have a good intimate knowledge of them. When I was in my 20s, I tried my hand at sales for a bunch of different things. Everything from vacuum cleaners to cars. Back then, it was a common work ethic to make sure you always knew more about what you were selling than any buyer you could come across. Today, well... not so much. lol.

Got out of sales cuz I realized I'm more of a customer service person. I love to help people and I don't even mind pushing a product, but I can't "manipulate" people like you're required to do in most sales jobs and be able to sleep at night. I'm just not wired that way. No offense meant to any salespeople that may be here. I'm not saying all salespeople do that, just most in my experience.

Yes, and as a middle aged petite lady you'd think I'd be the furthest thing from a guitar spec nut but alas I'm afraid I'm a complete guitar wonk. That's more than I can say for most guitar center clerks.

CaliGull Senior Member Posts: 285 Location: Los Angeles area Playing guitar since: middle school, but with big gaps in between!	Seagull Scale Length Change Apr 11, 2017 0:15:49 GMT -5 via mobile Stud Muffin likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by CaliGull on Apr 11, 2017 0:15:49 GMT -5 And I am still sore about giving up my short scale S6 to Godin and their damaging it, even if it was as big as a ship.

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CTGull ,RobertW ,@sleigh ,Jim ,Stud Muffin ,TonyKgull ,CaliGull ,, I am guessing that even at my favorite shop in town several of the younger help are likely electric players with not a lot of interest in acoustic guitars, with a real disconnect when it comes to what a guitar player might look for in a guitar. Of course I am displaying my bias, that guitars are by nature acoustic, and electrics are guitar-like instruments.
I've noticed that some of them approach a conversation with a prospective customer (such as myself) with a guitar speech best saved for the complete novice who comes in and asks which guitar he/she should buy.

In order of appearance:
Aria LW-20
Seagull Maritime HG Dread
Seagull Natural Elements Cedar/Cherry Dread
Taylor 418e
Taylor 514ce LTD
Trinity College TM-375 Irish Bouzouki

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I ask them what they play 1st.

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Ibanez Artwood Parlour 2 AVN3-NT Spruce/Mahogany (2015)
Martin GPCPA5K Stika Spruce/Koa HDL/Birch Stratabond/Morado Fretboard (2015)
Gretsch Mahogany Boxcar Round-Neck Resonator (2015)
Alvarez ABT60 Baritone Spruce/Mahogany (2016)
Sigma 000M-15 Mahogany, Rosewood Fretboard (2018)

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