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Electronic Capo Apr 30, 2017 21:15:59 GMT -5

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Hmm... The digital artifacts are WAY too obvious for me. And the one thing I was hoping it could do was to act as a 'reverse' capo -- in other words, take a guitar tuned to E standard and take it DOWN a step or so. There are a few tunes where I prefer using the E chord structures but I like to play in D. But evidently this will only shift the guitar up, not down. And given that it's $130 on amazon, for the rare times that I actually use a capo, I'll just keep one in my case.

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Electronic Capo May 1, 2017 6:05:39 GMT -5

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Apr 30, 2017 21:15:59 GMT -5 @sleigh said:

Hmm... The digital artifacts are WAY too obvious for me. And the one thing I was hoping it could do was to act as a 'reverse' capo -- in other words, take a guitar tuned to E standard and take it DOWN a step or so. There are a few tunes where I prefer using the E chord structures but I like to play in D. But evidently this will only shift the guitar up, not down. And given that it's $130 on amazon, for the rare times that I actually use a capo, I'll just keep one in my case.

they have box for that...Drop Tune I think it's called .... it has bad reviews..it goes all the way down to B-standard (Baritone Guitar-like)

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Electronic Capo May 1, 2017 10:12:34 GMT -5

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What is "B standard"? What would we call standard tuning? I realise it's an open G6+9 or an Em7+4 (Not sure if I've done those chords correctly) but I've never heard them referred to by these labels. Baritone ukulele, DGBE, is often called a G6 tuning though. What chord is B Standard tuned to?

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Electronic Capo May 1, 2017 13:46:18 GMT -5

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RobertW,@sleigh,Jim,

That drop tune pedal is pretty cool.
If I was really into electric guitar playing, I'd get one of them.

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Electronic Capo May 1, 2017 17:19:54 GMT -5

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May 1, 2017 15:29:39 GMT -5 Jim said:

OK, I've been messing with tunings and have come up with D#-B-D#-F#-B-D#. That's an open B tuning. Is that what you mean by B Standard? I hate tuning that fifth string up to B.

Jim,

This is my interpretation:

Standard Tuning. = E
Drop half step = F Standard.
Drop another half step = F# Standard
Drop another half step = G Standard
Drop another half step = G # Standard
Ect.

Think this is what they mean.

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Electronic Capo May 1, 2017 18:41:11 GMT -5

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May 1, 2017 17:19:54 GMT -5 Derick said:

May 1, 2017 15:29:39 GMT -5 Jim said:

OK, I've been messing with tunings and have come up with D#-B-D#-F#-B-D#. That's an open B tuning. Is that what you mean by B Standard? I hate tuning that fifth string up to B.

Jim ,

This is my interpretation:

Standard Tuning. = E
Drop half step = F Standard.
Drop another half step = F# Standard
Drop another half step = G Standard
Drop another half step = G # Standard
Ect.

Think this is what they mean.

Not quite (at least in my interpretation)...

Jim, E standard (to me, anyway) is the standard, usual guitar tuning: E A D G B E. If you play the usual 1st position E-shape chord, you're playing an "E".

If you put a capo on the third fret, you're still in 'standard' tuning, but the 'E'-shape chord (with the capo now acting as the nut of the guitar) is now a G, so you're in "G standard" tuning

If you tune every string of the guitar down a full step (D G C F A D), you're still in 'standard' tuning, but that E-shape 1st position chord is now actually a "D" chord, so you're in "D-standard" tuning.

Derick -- if you'd said...

Standard Tuning. = E
Capo the 1st fret = F Standard.
Capo the second fret = F# Standard
Capo the third fret = G Standard
Capo the fourth fret = G # Standard
Ect.

... I'd've said "Exactly."

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May 1, 2017 10:12:34 GMT -5 Jim said:

What is "B standard"? What would we call standard tuning? I realise it's an open G6+9 or an Em7+4 (Not sure if I've done those chords correctly) but I've never heard them referred to by these labels. Baritone ukulele, DGBE, is often called a G6 tuning though. What chord is B Standard tuned to?

A standard guitar's standard tuning (from lowest string to highest) is E A D G B E. While no standard tuning has been established for baritone guitars, popular tunings for the instrument are: a perfect fifth (A D G C E A), a diminished fifth (B♭ E♭ A♭ D♭ F B♭), a perfect fourth (B E A D F♯ B), or a major third lower (C F B♭ E♭ G C). -wiki

The Drop Tune Pedal would take a "standard guitar's standard tuning, E A D G B E, down to (B E A D F♯ B).

This has nothing to do with so-called Open tunings

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May 1, 2017 17:19:54 GMT -5 Derick said:

May 1, 2017 15:29:39 GMT -5 Jim said:

OK, I've been messing with tunings and have come up with D#-B-D#-F#-B-D#. That's an open B tuning. Is that what you mean by B Standard? I hate tuning that fifth string up to B.

Jim ,

This is my interpretation:

Standard Tuning. = E
Drop half step = F Standard.
Drop another half step = F# Standard
Drop another half step = G Standard
Drop another half step = G # Standard
Ect.

Think this is what they mean.

Drop half step = Eb Standard
Drop Full step - D Standard

etc

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May 1, 2017 13:46:18 GMT -5 Derick said:

RobertW ,@sleigh ,Jim ,

That drop tune pedal is pretty cool.
If I was really into electric guitar playing, I'd get one of them.

personally I prefer to just tune the guitar down from E standard...and when that gets too low for the strings, capo up on my baritone.

and buying a baritone is better investment

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Electronic Capo May 1, 2017 19:45:02 GMT -5

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thoughts:
-It seems that standard guitar tuning is perfect fourth intervals. The most commonly used baritone guitar tuning is also perfect fourth intervals.
- perfect fourths is the standard.
-The standard and drop tunings are named for what chord the commonly used E chord formation produces.

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Electronic Capo May 1, 2017 23:42:01 GMT -5

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May 1, 2017 18:41:11 GMT -5 @sleigh said:

May 1, 2017 17:19:54 GMT -5 Derick said:

Jim ,

This is my interpretation:

Standard Tuning. = E
Drop half step = F Standard.
Drop another half step = F# Standard
Drop another half step = G Standard
Drop another half step = G # Standard
Ect.

Think this is what they mean.

Not quite (at least in my interpretation)...

Jim , E standard (to me, anyway) is the standard, usual guitar tuning: E A D G B E. If you play the usual 1st position E-shape chord, you're playing an "E".

If you put a capo on the third fret, you're still in 'standard' tuning, but the 'E'-shape chord (with the capo now acting as the nut of the guitar) is now a G, so you're in "G standard" tuning

If you tune every string of the guitar down a full step (D G C F A D), you're still in 'standard' tuning, but that E-shape 1st position chord is now actually a "D" chord, so you're in "D-standard" tuning.

Derick -- if you'd said...

Standard Tuning. = E
Capo the 1st fret = F Standard.
Capo the second fret = F# Standard
Capo the third fret = G Standard
Capo the fourth fret = G # Standard
Ect.

... I'd've said "Exactly."

Ah, I see and it sounds like something I may have read on here before.
The thing that confused me was why call it by the E chord shape. We could call it C Standard and if we tune every string of the guitar down a full step (D G C F A D), you're still in 'standard' tuning, but that C-shape 1st position chord is now actually a "Bb" chord, so you're now in "Bb-standard" tuning.
In fact we could do the same for any 1st position chord shape. Why choose E?

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