Last night I spent some extended time with the Tele and the POD HD500x. Instead of using the presets which have been specially crafted to resemble some great guitar tones, I tried my hand at perfecting my own tone. I have done this before, but they never sounded anywhere near as good the presets.
Well last night, after 4.5 hours solid, I had something that was workable and that I was quite proud of. It really is quite complicated. - Choose amp, head, and mic. - Set amp and head levels - Choose compression, set bass mid and treble - Readjust amp levels - choose type of reverb, delay, drive etc. Set all those levels - Readjust amp levels - Assign foot switches etc - Assign order if effects and pre- or post, which changes everything again!!!
You get the picture. It takes hours and I have developed a deep amount of respect for electric guitarists who get good tone. I think they must work very hard.
So I ended up with quite a nice model, based on a VOX AC30 with an offset SM57.mic. I used an MXR compressor (always on), a tube driver, a spring reverb (always on), a cave reverb which can be toggled, a basic no frills digital delay, and a tremelo model from the VOX AC15.
I think the cleans sound really good, especially with the cave reverb or the tremelo on. I'm not 100% happy with the extra drive tone, but its definitely the best I've done so far. It sounds full without being harsh or muddy. The trick is to cut the mids.
I'm not sure if I will use it over my WT Blackface-15 preset, which sounds really good! That is based on a VOX AC15 and Fender Twin combo. But I'm tempted to give it a bash and hear what it sounds like
Post by Anteriormente Pura Vida! on Feb 16, 2019 12:11:10 GMT -5
El Gull, I got a new Helix LT for Christmas, but haven't had much time to experiment beyond the default settings. But I was actually going to try to develop some custom tones soon. I'm not sure if there are the same for the POD HD500x, but Jason Sadites has a series of really helpful YouTube videos on using the Helix floor processors. He has a six video series on creating good tones in the Helix, whose concepts should apply onto the POD, even of the hardware is different. I really love my Helix LT, and it's enabled me to get back into some electric guitar playing.
Yeh, I've seen the Helix and it looks awesome. You're right, the principals should be the same as the HD500x and so perhaps I should check out those videos. Thanks Pura Vida.
My new plan is to use the same pedals and pedal settings, but swop out the amp models. In that way I can find out which amp I like. I am definitely enjoying the brighter amps for the clean tones, and my next trick is to try and get a handle on the Vox AC15. I am also figuring a bright amp with a darker humbucker guitar might sound great. (Maybe just an excuse to get a humbucker guitar - Lol!)
That's partially why I have never tried an electric guitar (that and I'm not going to get into something else until I get really good on acoustic and mandolin!) I have decided that getting good on what I already have will likely take me the rest of my life...….
ladyssolo One of the reasons why I'm thinking of going back to a 4 string bass. I was getting better at finding the groove with 4 strings. Then switched to 5 strings and now I'm pretty much less than average.
Last Edit: Feb 16, 2019 18:35:25 GMT -5 by El Gull
ladyssolo, If you're anything like me, you'll find the more you play that electric, the better you'll get on your acoustic. The ease of play on an electric helps develop techniques and muscle memory etc much faster and easier, then, when you go to the acoustic, it all just magically stays.
Part of the reason I bought my first "serious" electric (the Godin A6 Ultra) was just as a learning tool and it really worked. Stuff I just could never get the hang of on the acoustic I learned in just weeks on the electric. Then, when I went to the acoustic again, viola! It was just as easy as on the electric. Weird, but it really worked that way for me and I think you'll find the same experience, at least to a degree. Enjoy!
El Gull, Ya, my main bassist got a really, really expensive 5 string bass a couple of years ago. You know, the kind that has the frets at angles for the true intonation thing. Cost something like 5 thousand bucks! (ya, he's got money. Drives a Tesla, nice big house, etc, etc. lol. )
Problem is, ever since he got that bass, he makes a lot more mistakes and doesn't seem to have the same natural groove or rhythm. He seems to be "searching" for things way more and not always finding them. Very frustrating. But, ah well, not much I can do but hope he gets better cuz he loves that thing. lol. So even though I don't know how that feels from personal experience, I do see it through him.
I definitely not complaining though, he's my most dedicated team member. He always puts in the greatest effort and work ethic of everybody and I'm really thankful and appreciate him a LOT.
===================================== One Alvarez in the hand is worth two Taylors and a Martin in the guitar store!
Recently at the local music shop, I picked up a Seven string, Ibanez electric guitar, soon put it back down.
Seven strings come in at least three different configurations.
There are the kind that George Van Eps popularized, with and extra bass string.
The kind that Lenny Breau played with the extra treble string.
The kind with an octave G string like Spider John Koerner played.
-1962 Martin D-21 -1950 Gibson LG1 -1958 Goya M-26 -1974 Yamaha FG75 high strung -A number of banjos, mandolins, Autoharps, ukuleles, dulcimers, mouth harps, a Tele clone and various other stuff. -I own a fiddle, but only play it when Maggie and the cats are all out of the house.
@sleigh , I don't know how you do it man! And sing and play as well . Ever since I switched to a 5 string a year ago, I feel really clumsy and dont know where to play. I'm having to do mental gymnastics on every note. To be fair, I dont play bass often enough to develop my technique and learn the fretboard. I've always had a horrible memory.
So what I have done now is tuned my 5 string to EADGC. You can hit some nice power chords at the top end every once in a while, no low B to mute, and everything is where it should be for a guitarist who is sometimes a bassist Maybe I'm selling myself short, but it's going to be easier