Taylor 712ce

TonyKgull, - List price close to 4 bars. So I guess around $3000 on the street! Ouch!!! Not getting one of these in a hurry. But its nice to dream.

No offense, but for around 3 grand, I could get my dream Cole Clark.  Wouldn't spend it on a Taylor.  I watched some vid reviews of the 712ce, the guitar itself sounded nice, but the pickup system, .....yuueeesch.   Sounded like a Fischer Price toy compared to what Cole Clarks sound like plugged in.

I think the highest I'd ever go in a Taylor would be something from the 300 series.

TonyKgull  and Derick , I don't actually mind the ES2 system. When played through a decent DI, it can actually sound very nice. My buddy plays his through an LR Baggs Session DI, and really sounds great.

I think the 412ce is about a grand cheaper on the street. At $2000, I might actually consider the Spruce Ovankol version if I had the money.

But it is a very niche guitar. Great for fingerstyle I am sure. But I also think it would be a great guitar to practice licks and leads on the short scale on the comfort of your couch. And so you can develop transferable skills to take to your 24.5 inch Les Paul.

I have no need for something like this at the moment. But I reckon my couch guitar is going to be a short scale cutaway, to cover a completely different niche from a big ol strummer.

TonyKgull, That's really nice of you to lend your guitar.
Now am not a mean person, but wouldn't like to lend out any of my guitars, don't really like other people playing my guitars.
I know this sounds really mean but they are my guitars.

TonyKgull,  I understand now, I may even consider lending one of my guitars to a sweet young good-looking blonde girl.