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Garland
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Huh- Dec 30, 2022 8:08:07 GMT -5

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Post by Garland on Dec 30, 2022 8:08:07 GMT -5

Y'all remember my complaining about the bridge plate quality on one of my guitars? How rough it was and how off the pin holes were? Add to that, the thread I started about tone differences- I found this thread on AGF- pretty interesting lack of quality workmanship- IMO

www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=661985

maybe I'm too critical, but a couple of cliche's come to mind-

The job ain't finished til the paper work is complete- metaphorically speaking.

One man's trash is another man's treasure also

but, seriously- just because it can't be easily seen doesn't mean the work shouldn't be aesthetically pleasing-

another cliche'- paying attention to detail is what wins races... another; the devil is in the details.

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Orangewood Ava w/LR Baggs Lyric
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Huh- Dec 30, 2022 9:49:24 GMT -5

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Post by Derick on Dec 30, 2022 9:49:24 GMT -5

Garland,

Think most of this comes down to the individual factory worker, and lack of inspection and retraining by the manufacturer.
Not to sure how poor internal guitar body glueing and finish, will have on overall sound/tone of the guitar.

Faith Mercury, Parlour Guitar.
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Takamine GY93E-Nat, Parlour Guitar, solid Spruce top.
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Garland
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Post by Garland on Dec 30, 2022 16:06:28 GMT -5

Dec 30, 2022 9:49:24 GMT -5 Derick said:

Garland ,

Think most of this comes down to the individual factory worker, and lack of inspection and retraining by the manufacturer.
Not to sure how poor internal guitar body glueing and finish, will have on overall sound/tone of the guitar.

Paying attention to detail is what wins races- it has to have an effect if glue bleeds onto the surface area that relies on vibration to reflect sound waves- also, poor finishes can't reflect as well as smooth surfaces-

sound waves "telephone" is what we called sound moving from one area to another resulting in a misdiagnosis of a problem in engines... same has to hold true for wood, which is a different composition and heavily relies on sound waves-

Yes, individual factory workers, improperly trained, is a problem, which is a why automation is putting them out of work...

Playin at playin guitar-

SO MANY GUITARS/SONGS, SO LITTLE TIME

Guild D140 Natural
Epiphone Dove Pro (limited edition)Alpine White
Luna Artwood Vintage Distressed Folk Body
Washburn HG75SEG-0 (gave to my youngest son)
Gretsch 5420T in Aspen Green
Orangewood Ava w/LR Baggs Lyric
Martin 00015M w/LR Baggs Lyric
Lag T118ASCE-BLK
Guild D240E
A-M-I J45 clone
Squier Affinity Telecaster in White

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Post by ancient1 on Dec 31, 2022 11:03:49 GMT -5

I would imagine you were referring to low quality when mentioning poor finishes. Just as a side note, my american dream guitar only has a 2 mil finish (almost non existant) yet it has more volume than any acoustic I've ever played.
What I know about guitars would fit in a thimble so it could be other factors that allow for the volume.

Seagulls live 40 + years....so should our guitars

Garland
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Huh- Dec 31, 2022 12:34:33 GMT -5 ancient1 likes this

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Post by Garland on Dec 31, 2022 12:34:33 GMT -5

ancient1, I wasn't talking about external finishes... rough, not well sanded, unfinished wood on the insides is what I'm talking about... low quality control for sure. I'm not sure why that happens without being there to observe the process, but I would guess, that QC is a "good enough for gov't work" mentality passed down from bean counters who don't know squat about skill, or craftsmanship, talent, or anything much else for that matter, that requires caring about what you're doing and knowing that someone will come behind you and ask; wth did this crap work?

Playin at playin guitar-

SO MANY GUITARS/SONGS, SO LITTLE TIME

Guild D140 Natural
Epiphone Dove Pro (limited edition)Alpine White
Luna Artwood Vintage Distressed Folk Body
Washburn HG75SEG-0 (gave to my youngest son)
Gretsch 5420T in Aspen Green
Orangewood Ava w/LR Baggs Lyric
Martin 00015M w/LR Baggs Lyric
Lag T118ASCE-BLK
Guild D240E
A-M-I J45 clone
Squier Affinity Telecaster in White

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